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Dee Karl
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.20.2009

Dec 31 @ 7:25 AM ET
Dee Karl: Of Luck & Snow New Year, New Page, High Hopes
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 31 @ 7:49 AM ET
Dee Karl: Of Luck & Snow
New Year, New Page, High Hopes

- Dee Karl

"He is also a man who will stand behind his actions no matter how dumbass they look to the rest of the world. "


This is a lie. Zero accountability. All he does is deflect and change the subject when asked a question he doesn't like. Capuano is the worst coach this team has ever seen and that says a lot with the likes of Stirling and Goring having coached here. Snow is the problem as anyone with half a brain in their head knows. You can try dolling up his arrogance and putting a positive spin on his stupidity all you want Dee. Doesn't help. Garth Snow is one thing and that's bush league. There's no dolling that up.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 31 @ 8:40 AM ET
"He is also a man who will stand behind his actions no matter how dumbass they look to the rest of the world. "


This is a lie. Zero accountability. All he does is deflect and change the subject when asked a question he doesn't like. Capuano is the worst coach this team has ever seen and that says a lot with the likes of Stirling and Goring having coached here. Snow is the problem as anyone with half a brain in their head knows. You can try dolling up his arrogance and putting a positive spin on his stupidity all you want Dee. Doesn't help. Garth Snow is one thing and that's bush league. There's no dolling that up.

- Cptmjl


so are you saying you don't like the job he's done so far?



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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 31 @ 9:01 AM ET
so are you saying you don't like the job he's done so far?



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- XxNYIxX

Besides losing and getting top five picks Snow has done little in my eyes. He brought in Capuano who is a sub par coach. He has not done a good job putting the right people in the right positions to develop those draft picks. There is an attitude that losing is acceptable from top to bottom. Thisis Snows fault. He will never own it up to it. Not his style.
slapshot018
New York Islanders
Location: 4, NY
Joined: 08.04.2011

Dec 31 @ 10:04 AM ET
Besides losing and getting top five picks Snow has done little in my eyes. He brought in Capuano who is a sub par coach. He has not done a good job putting the right people in the right positions to develop those draft picks. There is an attitude that losing is acceptable from top to bottom. Thisis Snows fault. He will never own it up to it. Not his style.
- Cptmjl



snow is a part of the problem yes but this is not all snow's fault. it all starts from the owner and trickles down from there. wang is the cheapest owner of any professional sports team. hes been nickle and diming for a decade now, leaving snow very little to work with. with the budget hes been given, hes actually done a pretty good job. if our owner would allow us to spend more money, snow could attempt to make some more moves. without spending money, its hard to improve drastically from year to year.

and capuano is bad, but he is not the worst coach this organization has ever seen.

and lastly, snow actually takes all of the blame for not winning.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 31 @ 10:23 AM ET
snow is a part of the problem yes but this is not all snow's fault. it all starts from the owner and trickles down from there. wang is the cheapest owner of any professional sports team. hes been nickle and diming for a decade now, leaving snow very little to work with. with the budget hes been given, hes actually done a pretty good job. if our owner would allow us to spend more money, snow could attempt to make some more moves. without spending money, its hard to improve drastically from year to year.

and capuano is bad, but he is not the worst coach this organization has ever seen.

and lastly, snow actually takes all of the blame for not winning.

- slapshot018



This statement is not even close to being true. The man has NEVER been shy to spend money on this team. Do not confuse a budget with being cheap. If Snow has come to him about getting money for a player he has never turned him down. Its the players that turn down the Islanders. You can not MAKE a player take your money.

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slapshot018
New York Islanders
Location: 4, NY
Joined: 08.04.2011

Dec 31 @ 10:37 AM ET
This statement is not even close to being true. The man has NEVER been shy to spend money on this team. Do not confuse a budget with being cheap. If Snow has come to him about getting money for a player he has never turned him down. Its the players that turn down the Islanders. You can not MAKE a player take your money.

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- XxNYIxX



name the last trade or free agent signing on a start player before vanek.....ryan smyth....why? because wang wont spend money. do you really think snow has an unlimited budget and is choosing himself not to spend money? what kind of GM would do that? and if that was the case, what owner would not fire their gm? you are literally the first and only "islander" fan that ive ever heard say its not wang, its snow...thats just insane. it ALL starts with wang.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 31 @ 10:43 AM ET
name the last trade or free agent signing on a start player before vanek.....ryan smyth....why? because wang wont spend money. do you really think snow has an unlimited budget and is choosing himself not to spend money? what kind of GM would do that? and if that was the case, what owner would not fire their gm? you are literally the first and only "islander" fan that ive ever heard say its not wang, its snow...thats just insane. it ALL starts with wang.
- slapshot018


I didn't say it wasn't Wang, I said Wang is not cheap. There is a huge difference there.

I also never said that Snow has an unlimited budget, he has a tight budget, but he has NEVER been told no when it comes to adding to that budget.

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cmimbri
New York Islanders
Location: manalapan, NJ
Joined: 08.28.2007

Dec 31 @ 10:48 AM ET
name the last trade or free agent signing on a start player before vanek.....ryan smyth....why? because wang wont spend money. do you really think snow has an unlimited budget and is choosing himself not to spend money? what kind of GM would do that? and if that was the case, what owner would not fire their gm? you are literally the first and only "islander" fan that ive ever heard say its not wang, its snow...thats just insane. it ALL starts with wang.
- slapshot018

Put your self in Wangs shoes.. the guys has dropped a lot of money on this team, as owner, loosing 10 million a year minimum is not being cheap.. by no means.. I love how you fools, think you cold better manage Wangs money.. The guy and the team, are on a budget until he gets out of Nassau. Kate murray pegged this organization with a strap -on, and he is bidding his time until he can pull out...Wangs fault is his loyalty to Snow and crappy.. Both of which need to go, but to say the guy is not spending money, when he is spending millions and loosing millions well is just a FOOLISH UNEDUCATED STATEMENT
cmimbri
New York Islanders
Location: manalapan, NJ
Joined: 08.28.2007

Dec 31 @ 10:50 AM ET
I didn't say it wasn't Wang, I said Wang is not cheap. There is a huge difference there.

I also never said that Snow has an unlimited budget, he has a tight budget, but he has NEVER been told no when it comes to adding to that budget.

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- XxNYIxX

he doesnt get it nyi
slapshot018
New York Islanders
Location: 4, NY
Joined: 08.04.2011

Dec 31 @ 10:52 AM ET
Put your self in Wangs shoes.. the guys has dropped a lot of money on this team, as owner, loosing 10 million a year minimum is not being cheap.. by no means.. I love how you fools, think you cold better manage Wangs money.. The guy and the team, are on a budget until he gets out of Nassau. Kate murray pegged this organization with a strap -on, and he is bidding his time until he can pull out...Wangs fault is his loyalty to Snow and crappy.. Both of which need to go, but to say the guy is not spending money, when he is spending millions and loosing millions well is just a FOOLISH UNEDUCATED STATEMENT
- cmimbri



what are you 12? know anything about how to make money at all? doesnt take a genious to know its economics 101 that you need to spend money to make money. cant draw a crowd if your in last place...thats how you lose money....not putting a contending team on the ice is how you lose money. spending money and turning into a competitor is how you make money. you think hes losing 10 mil a year for any reason other than the islanders are the worst team in professional sports over the last 15 years? if they were contending, he would be making money. they arent contending becuase they wont spend any money. where is wang spending money exactly to you guys? blown away by how retarded hockeybuzz people are. this is stuff that chris botta has been saying for years...but im the one thats uneducated..sure
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 31 @ 10:53 AM ET
what are you 12? know anything about how to make money at all? doesnt take a genious to know its economics 101 that you need to spend money to make money. cant draw a crowd if your in last place...thats how you lose money....not putting a contending team on the ice is how you lose money. spending money and turning into a competitor is how you make money. you think hes losing 10 mil a year for any reason other than the islanders are the worst team in professional sports over the last 15 years? if they were contending, he would be making money. they arent contending becuase they wont spend any money. where is wang spending money exactly to you guys? blown away by how retarded hockeybuzz people are. this is stuff that chris botta has been saying for years...but im the one thats uneducated..sure
- slapshot018



Seriously?


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XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 31 @ 10:55 AM ET
what are you 12? know anything about how to make money at all? doesnt take a genious to know its economics 101 that you need to spend money to make money. cant draw a crowd if your in last place...thats how you lose money....not putting a contending team on the ice is how you lose money. spending money and turning into a competitor is how you make money. you think hes losing 10 mil a year for any reason other than the islanders are the worst team in professional sports over the last 15 years? if they were contending, he would be making money. they arent contending becuase they wont spend any money. where is wang spending money exactly to you guys? blown away by how retarded hockeybuzz people are. this is stuff that chris botta has been saying for years...but im the one thats uneducated..sure
- slapshot018



you said it!

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XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 31 @ 10:58 AM ET
he doesnt get it nyi
- cmimbri



Good to see ya cmimbri, Been a while!

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slapshot018
New York Islanders
Location: 4, NY
Joined: 08.04.2011

Dec 31 @ 11:00 AM ET
you said it!

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wang supporter
lileapers
New York Rangers
Location: North Massapequa, NY
Joined: 10.09.2008

Dec 31 @ 11:05 AM ET
Put your self in Wangs shoes.. the guys has dropped a lot of money on this team, as owner, loosing 10 million a year minimum is not being cheap.. by no means.. I love how you fools, think you cold better manage Wangs money.. The guy and the team, are on a budget until he gets out of Nassau. Kate murray pegged this organization with a strap -on, and he is bidding his time until he can pull out...Wangs fault is his loyalty to Snow and crappy.. Both of which need to go, but to say the guy is not spending money, when he is spending millions and loosing millions well is just a FOOLISH UNEDUCATED STATEMENT
- cmimbri



Wang is too CHEAP to fire Snow and/or Cappy.
When will everyone admit he only bought the team to get his lighthouse project.
He is a pure businessman! Can't say I blame him.
roadworker
New York Islanders
Location: Hicksville, NY
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 31 @ 11:13 AM ET
Put your self in Wangs shoes.. the guys has dropped a lot of money on this team, as owner, loosing 10 million a year minimum is not being cheap.. by no means.. I love how you fools, think you cold better manage Wangs money.. The guy and the team, are on a budget until he gets out of Nassau. Kate murray pegged this organization with a strap -on, and he is bidding his time until he can pull out...Wangs fault is his loyalty to Snow and crappy.. Both of which need to go, but to say the guy is not spending money, when he is spending millions and loosing millions well is just a FOOLISH UNEDUCATED STATEMENT
- cmimbri


Maybe if he would have put a winning team on the ice he would not be losing money every year.


XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 31 @ 11:15 AM ET
Wang is too CHEAP to fire Snow and/or Cappy.
When will everyone admit he only bought the team to get his lighthouse project.
He is a pure businessman! Can't say I blame him.

- lileapers



who is denying that?

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XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 31 @ 11:16 AM ET
Maybe if he would have put a winning team on the ice he would not be losing money every year.
- roadworker



Yha thats how it works.. LOL

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slapshot018
New York Islanders
Location: 4, NY
Joined: 08.04.2011

Dec 31 @ 11:20 AM ET
Yha thats how it works.. LOL

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- XxNYIxX



thats actually......exactly how it works.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 31 @ 11:24 AM ET
thats actually......exactly how it works.
- slapshot018


So how was he losing money when we did have a playoff team on the ice from 02 till 04?

winning team.. losing money... hmmmmmm

there goes your theory.

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slapshot018
New York Islanders
Location: 4, NY
Joined: 08.04.2011

Dec 31 @ 11:32 AM ET
So how was he losing money when we did have a playoff team on the ice from 02 till 04?

winning team.. losing money... hmmmmmm

there goes your theory.

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- XxNYIxX



wow you really dont know anything at all...first of all, he made more money those years then any year on the isles...secondly, we were, and still are recovering from mike milbury who drove this franchise into the ground. sneaking into the playoffs after missing the playoffs for a decade is not gonig to suddenly cause profits.


look at pitt and chi. pitt was bankrupt and SO close to selling and relocating...then they get sid and spend money to build a contenidng team around him...now they sell out every game and are stanley cup favorites every year....because they spent money

chi was in the same exact scenerio...they drafted toewes and kane and spend a sh it load of money around them,...started winning, started selling out games, started making profits

isles get tavares...common knowledge wil ltell you to build around him...we dont...we keep losing...wang goes further into debt...


PLEASE..tell me what you think wang is doing right and what direction you see this team going in...what would you do? because you're good at telling peoiple they are wrong and uneducated but you have nothing to support yourself.

XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 31 @ 11:48 AM ET
wow you really dont know anything at all...first of all, he made more money those years then any year on the isles...secondly, we were, and still are recovering from mike milbury who drove this franchise into the ground. sneaking into the playoffs after missing the playoffs for a decade is not gonig to suddenly cause profits.


look at pitt and chi. pitt was bankrupt and SO close to selling and relocating...then they get sid and spend money to build a contenidng team around him...now they sell out every game and are stanley cup favorites every year....because they spent money

chi was in the same exact scenerio...they drafted toewes and kane and spend a sh it load of money around them,...started winning, started selling out games, started making profits

isles get tavares...common knowledge wil ltell you to build around him...we dont...we keep losing...wang goes further into debt...


PLEASE..tell me what you think wang is doing right and what direction you see this team going in...what would you do? because you're good at telling peoiple they are wrong and uneducated but you have nothing to support yourself.


- slapshot018



Pitt also got a new arena... ohh yha there was that.

You apparently are not good at reading.. I never once said Wang was doing ANYTHING right..... all I said was that he wasn't cheap.. its your blind hatred that cant see past that simple fact.


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slapshot018
New York Islanders
Location: 4, NY
Joined: 08.04.2011

Dec 31 @ 11:51 AM ET
Pitt also got a new arena... ohh yha there was that.

You apparently are not good at reading.. I never once said Wang was doing ANYTHING right..... all I said was that he wasn't cheap.. its your blind hatred that cant see past that simple fact.


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- XxNYIxX



how is having the leagues lowest payrtoll every year not cheap?

yeah you're right, the pens new arena is why they are good.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 31 @ 12:05 PM ET
how is having the leagues lowest payrtoll every year not cheap?

yeah you're right, the pens new arena is why they are good.

- slapshot018



Again.. lack of reading skills is killing you.


You were talking about Pitts ability to make money... I pointed out that their new Arena helped a whole lot in that... I never said they were good because of the arena.

Having a budget to minimize losses is not cheap it is smart. Snow has never been handcuffed on adding a salary that makes sense.. he added 4 million in one trade this season alone. He has offered above market contracts to free agents that choose elsewhere, but Wang has always given Garth the ability to add to that budget.

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